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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 3926537" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>Just finished the third book, and I feel the need to rant to anyone who has read this book and can comment. Lots of spoilers. I will try to tag them...</p><p></p><p>The book is overall good, and I found it very compelling. However, regarding the ending, WTF!</p><p></p><p>[spoiler]This book ended at Capustan. It was a fine ending. It was a horrific event, but in the end they took the city and captured the enemy and transformed them into a new unit of their own soldiers, transformed Gruntle, tied up many lose ends, etc.. Deal done. We can move on now.</p><p></p><p>But nooooo we still have the march to Coral. And that is where this book falls entirely apart for me. The battle for Coral was dumb, in many respects. </p><p></p><p>Contrasted with Capustan, we had no feel for the individual enemy, their plan, their strategy, or anything. I didn't feel like there was any sort of tactics and strategy at all really, unlike all of Erikson's other battles.</p><p></p><p>Nor did sacrificing the Bridgburners and really all of One-Arms host to get there early just so that Brood didn't have to use his hammer make ANY SENSE. Just ask the guy to not use his hammer - how about you try that instead of needlessly killing everyone to buy yourself what, an hour or so? Or concentrate on delaying Brood himself. It was a weak excuse.</p><p></p><p>And that sacrifice is what really pissed me off. No, not that so many named characters died - that is OK with me. It's that it made no sense for the plot, at all. Coral was going to fall without the Bridgeburners. Moons Spawn, and it's dragons and ravens, were doing just fine. The Segulah and Lady Envy were doing just fine. The combined army would have had plenty of time to march TOGETHER to Coral and calmly take it apart with the same kind of siege they are so good at. If you wanted to send the Bridgeburners ahead to destroy the hidden trenches, fine. But they should have retreated after that, not entered the city.</p><p></p><p>And what the heck was up with Itkovian releasing the T'Lan Imass BEFORE they could take out the K'ell hunter? He couldn't wait another 10 minutes? Sorry, I know he is supposed to be the grand hero of this book, but Itkovian was a jerk for doing that. By "saving" the hearts of those T'Lan 10 minutes to early, he is personally responsible for the death of most of One-Arms host. It was needless, and frankly self-centered and cruel, to not wait until the battle was over.</p><p></p><p>The Mhybe/Silverfox was fairly boring. The Necromancers, while entertaining, were a total distraction from the plot, and felt like they had been lifted from somewhere else and forced into the story for no particular reason other than he liked those characters.[/spoiler]</p><p></p><p>What am I missing here guys. Give me the wisdom of your perspective. Make me feel better about what seems like a rushed, botched ending to an otherwise great book.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 3926537, member: 2525"] Just finished the third book, and I feel the need to rant to anyone who has read this book and can comment. Lots of spoilers. I will try to tag them... The book is overall good, and I found it very compelling. However, regarding the ending, WTF! [spoiler]This book ended at Capustan. It was a fine ending. It was a horrific event, but in the end they took the city and captured the enemy and transformed them into a new unit of their own soldiers, transformed Gruntle, tied up many lose ends, etc.. Deal done. We can move on now. But nooooo we still have the march to Coral. And that is where this book falls entirely apart for me. The battle for Coral was dumb, in many respects. Contrasted with Capustan, we had no feel for the individual enemy, their plan, their strategy, or anything. I didn't feel like there was any sort of tactics and strategy at all really, unlike all of Erikson's other battles. Nor did sacrificing the Bridgburners and really all of One-Arms host to get there early just so that Brood didn't have to use his hammer make ANY SENSE. Just ask the guy to not use his hammer - how about you try that instead of needlessly killing everyone to buy yourself what, an hour or so? Or concentrate on delaying Brood himself. It was a weak excuse. And that sacrifice is what really pissed me off. No, not that so many named characters died - that is OK with me. It's that it made no sense for the plot, at all. Coral was going to fall without the Bridgeburners. Moons Spawn, and it's dragons and ravens, were doing just fine. The Segulah and Lady Envy were doing just fine. The combined army would have had plenty of time to march TOGETHER to Coral and calmly take it apart with the same kind of siege they are so good at. If you wanted to send the Bridgeburners ahead to destroy the hidden trenches, fine. But they should have retreated after that, not entered the city. And what the heck was up with Itkovian releasing the T'Lan Imass BEFORE they could take out the K'ell hunter? He couldn't wait another 10 minutes? Sorry, I know he is supposed to be the grand hero of this book, but Itkovian was a jerk for doing that. By "saving" the hearts of those T'Lan 10 minutes to early, he is personally responsible for the death of most of One-Arms host. It was needless, and frankly self-centered and cruel, to not wait until the battle was over. The Mhybe/Silverfox was fairly boring. The Necromancers, while entertaining, were a total distraction from the plot, and felt like they had been lifted from somewhere else and forced into the story for no particular reason other than he liked those characters.[/spoiler] What am I missing here guys. Give me the wisdom of your perspective. Make me feel better about what seems like a rushed, botched ending to an otherwise great book. [/QUOTE]
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