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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 678843" data-attributes="member: 158">I have to disagree here. Even an animal has an INT of 2, and an animal is not necessarily a "drooling idiot." For an intelligence of five, the character might have little deductive reasoning, rarely pondering cause-and-effect, and simply caring little about reading or literary pursuits. They might not be lettered, because it simply played little part to their lives. A wisdom of 7 means that not only do they rarely ponder cause-and-effect, they probably get into the same trouble again and again, because they never learn from their mistakes. Now, because of their high INT and CHA, they frequently can dodge out of or talk their way out of the consequences of their mistakes - which doesn't help in their learning from them.Catatonia is defined by an INT of 0 - a 1 is a dim animal, while a 2 is a normal to smart animal. INT 5 is far from INT 0. So there is PLENTY of interaction room for a low INT low WIS character. Check out the article "Wise as an Ox, Strong as an Owl" in an issue of Dragon Magazine from last year (I'm afraid I don't have the issue handy). They give excellent pointers on roleplaying a character with one or two VERY low stats.</blockquote>