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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vlos" data-source="post: 1707360" data-attributes="member: 15447">Now is this for a first level toon or a higher starting level?If the later, then background may be reason enough. For example, why would a high mage bother or even have the ability to learn rogue skills? But if a rogue stole a book, and learned how to read it then become a mage.Now also a Rogue becoming a mage may not be looked on by other mages as a "true" mage or a lessor being. Where as a Mage, secretly learning the rogue skills, would be considered an equal by other mages, as long as they didn't learn of his shady ties.Also a Lord type toon(probably fighter based) starting as a Rogue? Probably not. So it could be just a matter of the characters goals. ALso as Steffen sort of pointed to, just not a spell book, but access to schools or sources of magic training. Again not a big issue starting above first, but could add some adventures or make it more difficult for them if they acquire it later on in life.As Darklone stated I have also run a campaign with PCs starting with a basic NPC class. I liked the flavor of it, but causes problems sometimes when toons get to Epic levels and BAB and such.</blockquote>