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<blockquote data-quote="Jeff Wilder" data-source="post: 2059872" data-attributes="member: 5122">I have no problem with allowing searchers to Take 20.&nbsp; I don't get the tedium thing, since (as folks have said) it's just a matter of 10 seconds of description of what they find (or not).&nbsp; I'd be more able to understand if the complaint was that Taking 20 on searches robs the game of some flavor, since nobody searches the bed, or the altar, or so on anymore.&nbsp; I'd also more easily understand if the complaint was that it makes searching too easy and certain.The fix is related for both of those.&nbsp; Simply assume that whomever hid the item (if deliberately hidden) took as much care hiding it as searchers are taking looking for it, and set the DC high to reflect that.&nbsp; You can then grant a search bonus, if you wish, for searching in specific places.Note, however, that this will slow down searching.&nbsp; If &quot;tedium&quot; really is the complaint, you won't wanna do that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jeff Wilder, post: 2059872, member: 5122"] I have no problem with allowing searchers to Take 20. I don't get the tedium thing, since (as folks have said) it's just a matter of 10 seconds of description of what they find (or not). I'd be more able to understand if the complaint was that Taking 20 on searches robs the game of some flavor, since nobody searches the bed, or the altar, or so on anymore. I'd also more easily understand if the complaint was that it makes searching too easy and certain. The fix is related for both of those. Simply assume that whomever hid the item (if deliberately hidden) took as much care hiding it as searchers are taking looking for it, and set the DC high to reflect that. You can then grant a search bonus, if you wish, for searching in [i]specific[/i] places. Note, however, that this will slow down searching. If "tedium" really is the complaint, you won't wanna do that. [/QUOTE]

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