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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 8302584" data-attributes="member: 177">Yes.&nbsp; And there are games out there that are, in fact, pure cooperative storytelling games, in which individual players do not take on a role.&nbsp; &quot;Once Upon a Time&quot; comes to mind as an example.However, the games we are talking about do have players taking on a specific role.&nbsp; I'm just talking about thinking about &quot;role&quot; as in &quot;narrative element in the story&quot; rather than tactical role, or actor's role.I think we largely agree.&nbsp; This was, in fact, why I brought up the Reluctant Hero.&nbsp; Typically, what a Reluctant Hero would do in an adventurous situation is... go home, farm his land, and raise a family. The end.&nbsp; Interesting story development for a Reluctant Hero often calls for things the character themselves would not want to do.&nbsp; Story-focused play allows a player to arrange for things to force the hero to act.&nbsp; There are squad-level tactical wargames, in which you don't take on the role of a particular warrior.&nbsp; The classic Advanced Squad Leader, for example.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 8302584, member: 177"] Yes. And there are games out there that are, in fact, pure cooperative storytelling games, in which individual players do [I]not[/I] take on a role. "Once Upon a Time" comes to mind as an example. However, the games we are talking about [I]do[/I] have players taking on a specific role. I'm just talking about thinking about "role" as in "narrative element in the story" rather than tactical role, or actor's role. I think we largely agree. This was, in fact, why I brought up the Reluctant Hero. Typically, what a Reluctant Hero would do in an adventurous situation is... go home, farm his land, and raise a family. The end. Interesting story development for a Reluctant Hero often calls for things the character themselves would not want to do. Story-focused play allows a player to arrange for things to force the hero to act. There are squad-level tactical wargames, in which you don't take on the role of a particular warrior. The classic Advanced Squad Leader, for example. [/QUOTE]

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