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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 8303006"><p>It isn't about the likelihood of failure. It is about where the skill is coming from. A bluff attempt puts the skill on the character creation, leveling upside (it is taking the right amount of ranks in skill and possibly dipping into the right classes, or taking the right feats, to be good at rolling bluff---and about knowing when to use bluff). That is fine it is a valid and good style of play. I enjoy it. But there is another style that places more emphasis on the skill being around what you say to the guard. And even if you know nothing about a person there are more skillful ways to approach a conversation and less skillful ways to approach a conversation. This is a style that rewards you being good at the skill your character is attempting (i.e. if you are good at solving puzzles, you will have an easier time solving puzzles, if you have a way with words, you may be more persuasive to NPCs). Not everyone plays this way. But it is definitely something I've seen and it is definitely an approach to skilled play that exists. Also it isn't a choice between this way and that way. Like I said, I enjoy both. I've played campaigns that do one or the other, and I've played campaigns that blend them. It is just a distinction that can be important to see when it exists.</p></blockquote><p></p>