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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 4996241" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>The problem is EW, you are defining RPG and Storygame as two separate and distinct entities. That' where people get a tad miffed and might feel like you are telling them that they aren't playing a "real" game.</p><p></p><p>I tend to be a big tent kind of guy, myself.</p><p></p><p>IMO, Role-Playing Game is one of those terms that is best defined by its center, not by its edges. Forest is another word like this. How do you define "forest"? Trees per square meter? Is height a factor? Where does the forest end, exactly? </p><p></p><p>Who knows? And, at the end of the day, who cares? I know a forest when I'm standing in one. I know that when I'm standing in a cornfield, I'm not standing in a forest. There's all sorts of shades in between where it might be forest and it might not be. </p><p></p><p>To me, that's what defines RPG. Is the purpose of the game to assume a role of some sort? Are there some sort of task resolution mechanics in place (whether codified or not)? Is there a sense that play is persistent, or at least can be persistent between sittings?* </p><p></p><p>If the answer is yes to those three, then it's good enough for me. </p><p></p><p></p><p>*Persistence is something that is rarely brought up in these discussions and it really should be. One of the largest differences between an RPG and any other game out there is the fact that your role persists beyond the resolution of a given situation. Almost no other game does that. While you could certainly role play in Monopoly, there is no concept of persistence there. Actually, persistence would run contrary to the rules of the game.</p><p></p><p>The fact that the game can continue pretty much indefinitely is a primary feature of RPG's, IMO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 4996241, member: 22779"] The problem is EW, you are defining RPG and Storygame as two separate and distinct entities. That' where people get a tad miffed and might feel like you are telling them that they aren't playing a "real" game. I tend to be a big tent kind of guy, myself. IMO, Role-Playing Game is one of those terms that is best defined by its center, not by its edges. Forest is another word like this. How do you define "forest"? Trees per square meter? Is height a factor? Where does the forest end, exactly? Who knows? And, at the end of the day, who cares? I know a forest when I'm standing in one. I know that when I'm standing in a cornfield, I'm not standing in a forest. There's all sorts of shades in between where it might be forest and it might not be. To me, that's what defines RPG. Is the purpose of the game to assume a role of some sort? Are there some sort of task resolution mechanics in place (whether codified or not)? Is there a sense that play is persistent, or at least can be persistent between sittings?* If the answer is yes to those three, then it's good enough for me. *Persistence is something that is rarely brought up in these discussions and it really should be. One of the largest differences between an RPG and any other game out there is the fact that your role persists beyond the resolution of a given situation. Almost no other game does that. While you could certainly role play in Monopoly, there is no concept of persistence there. Actually, persistence would run contrary to the rules of the game. The fact that the game can continue pretty much indefinitely is a primary feature of RPG's, IMO. [/QUOTE]
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