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<blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 4960983" data-attributes="member: 5143"><p>That was kind of my sticking point too. To be fair, I joined the meetup group and started posting in defense of 4e. It seems they were all in fairly big agreement that 4e was broken(except for the newest 3 or 4 people to their 12 member group. Different people show up every week.). I just suggested that it might be best to run 4e the way it was meant to be run and see if that was fun for them. They suggested that if they ran 4e the way it was meant to be run than they were no longer roleplaying. Since it took ALL of their choices(i.e. they were incapable of crafting anything since there was no craft skill, they were incapable of playing an instrument without any perform, they were incapable of doing anything against the party since it was a cooperative game), they weren't playing a roleplaying game anymore.</p><p></p><p>Which I felt pretty insulted by. But the DM posted saying "Look, I think we all got off on the wrong foot, and it sounds like everyone in my group hates 4e. But that's not true. We've been playing it every week for a year now. Just come to our game, I'm sure you'll like it and you'll get along with everyone here."</p><p></p><p>It wasn't horrible. I'm thinking I'll just interrupt the DM more often when I want to do something before he narrates past me next week. I'm just concerned that I already have on of their players posting a message about the session that said: "Majoru was also a nice little addition to our adventure, a great roleplayer indeed. Mind you his assassin is a tiny bit cheap <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />, I could sympathize with the DM."</p><p></p><p>I multiclassed into Rogue and I purposefully didn't sneak attack that encounter because the DM was complaining that I was doing too much damage when I was only using at-wills. I think I might optimize a little too well to fit in.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Majoru Oakheart, post: 4960983, member: 5143"] That was kind of my sticking point too. To be fair, I joined the meetup group and started posting in defense of 4e. It seems they were all in fairly big agreement that 4e was broken(except for the newest 3 or 4 people to their 12 member group. Different people show up every week.). I just suggested that it might be best to run 4e the way it was meant to be run and see if that was fun for them. They suggested that if they ran 4e the way it was meant to be run than they were no longer roleplaying. Since it took ALL of their choices(i.e. they were incapable of crafting anything since there was no craft skill, they were incapable of playing an instrument without any perform, they were incapable of doing anything against the party since it was a cooperative game), they weren't playing a roleplaying game anymore. Which I felt pretty insulted by. But the DM posted saying "Look, I think we all got off on the wrong foot, and it sounds like everyone in my group hates 4e. But that's not true. We've been playing it every week for a year now. Just come to our game, I'm sure you'll like it and you'll get along with everyone here." It wasn't horrible. I'm thinking I'll just interrupt the DM more often when I want to do something before he narrates past me next week. I'm just concerned that I already have on of their players posting a message about the session that said: "Majoru was also a nice little addition to our adventure, a great roleplayer indeed. Mind you his assassin is a tiny bit cheap :D, I could sympathize with the DM." I multiclassed into Rogue and I purposefully didn't sneak attack that encounter because the DM was complaining that I was doing too much damage when I was only using at-wills. I think I might optimize a little too well to fit in. [/QUOTE]
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