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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 6768519" data-attributes="member: 58197">Really? I'm not seeing it. If you consider 14 Dex/10 Wis versus 10 Dex/14 Wis, you're looking at +2 to initiative, Stealth, and bow attack/damage (when you fall back on the bow) versus +2 to Perception and Insight. Wis saves are slightly more important than Dex saves, but the difference is not huge. Perception and Stealth are both very valuable; initiative is better than Insight; being able to pull out a bow is a useful backup option. Seems like a wash.Furthermore, there is a key difference between Stealth and Perception which tilts things in favor of Stealth for a non-specialist PC. When the party is trying to sneak, the only Stealth check that matters is the worst one in the party. But when the party is trying to detect something, the only Perception check that matters is the best one*; and when using passive Perception, the non-specialist can't contribute at all. Thus, it is better for everyone to have a medium-good Stealth than for one person to have godlike Stealth, and better for one person to have godlike Perception than for everyone to have medium-good.14 is not a huge investment, stat-wise. It's when you go for 16 that you start paying a heavy price. [size=-2]*Except during an ambush/surprise situation. But in that case, initiative is also of vital importance.[/size]</blockquote>