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Message: <blockquote data-quote="krakistophales" data-source="post: 6768550" data-attributes="member: 6775149">I'm just not sure if a 14 in dex vs wisdom is really cost effective. There are many more skills that rely on wis than dex, and just getting +2 to init, ranged attacks, saves, and dex skills isn't that great. If I'm wearing heavy armor anyway, I have disadvantage on stealth so +2 means nothing, and why would I want to sneak around anyway? And in all my games, where one we are at level 7 and another level 12, I've never once had to draw a bow or felt that flying enemies were such a huge issue that they couldn't be dealt with.The fighter isn't meant to have uber utility, and d and d is a team game, so when flying enemies come around, either the caster will cast fly on me or him and the ranged attacker will pluck them out of the sky. For everything else, there seems to be just strength, heavy armor, and great weapon fighting if we're talking about effectiveness as a fighter and DPS.</blockquote>