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<blockquote data-quote="Aegeri" data-source="post: 5386127" data-attributes="member: 78116">You've not seen how terrible the Strength Cleric performs in Epic Tier obviously - I mean genuinely terrible. Especially post-errata on Clerics powers like Righteous Brand, which was severely nerfed and is merely &quot;good&quot; and not &quot;Automatic pick&quot;. I mean I played with a strength cleric in my campaign from level 7-30 and the fact is that the strength powers - except righteous brand - are universally terrible. The clerics true power is in many of their amazing wisdom based powers, which get stronger and stronger as you level up like Astral Storm - arguably one of the best area burst powers in the entire game.The Warpriest by the very virtue of the fact it is purely wisdom based is a long way ahead of the strength cleric - even without Righteous Brand. You could argue being even strength/wisdom, but that's rather pointless and it's far better to be con/wisdom. More hit points is essentials for leaders in a game where monsters can and almost certainly will &quot;snipe&quot; you as soon as possible if they get the chance (and have the damage to do so). The best thing I will concede about the strength cleric is easy access to plate armor. The nerfs to clerics in the errata last year hit the strength cleric extremely hard. There was a massive drop off in performance - so much the party began to really struggle in many battles. All the things the cleric actually did that were effective could be done by a wisdom cleric and far far better.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Aegeri, post: 5386127, member: 78116"] You've not seen how terrible the Strength Cleric performs in Epic Tier obviously - I mean genuinely terrible. Especially post-errata on Clerics powers like Righteous Brand, which was [I]severely[/I] nerfed and is merely "good" and not "Automatic pick". I mean I played with a strength cleric in my campaign from level 7-30 and the fact is that the strength powers - except righteous brand - are universally terrible. The clerics true power is in many of their amazing wisdom based powers, which get stronger and stronger as you level up like Astral Storm - arguably one of the best area burst powers in the entire game. The Warpriest by the very virtue of the fact it is purely wisdom based is a long way ahead of the strength cleric - even without Righteous Brand. You could argue being even strength/wisdom, but that's rather pointless and it's far better to be con/wisdom. More hit points is essentials for leaders in a game where monsters can and almost certainly will "snipe" you as soon as possible if they get the chance (and have the damage to do so). The best thing I will concede about the strength cleric is easy access to plate armor. The nerfs to clerics in the errata last year hit the strength cleric extremely hard. There was a massive drop off in performance - so much the party began to really struggle in many battles. All the things the cleric actually did that were effective could be done by a wisdom cleric [i]and far far better[/i]. [/QUOTE]

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