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<blockquote data-quote="mmu1" data-source="post: 1044578" data-attributes="member: 319"><p>Definitely not an example of a bad DM, but an example of what to me was a sidetrack and break in suspension of disbelief of epic proportions...</p><p></p><p>We kill a bunch of orcs deep inside a forest after drawing them into an ambush, and we search the area. We find an ornate box they must have looted from their victims (we found them at a battlesite) the DM says weighs about 10 pounds, and has a very good lock we can't open - and we don't want to break it. We're on the track of other orcs who seem to have taken some human soldiers prisoner. I'm playing a very strong Barbarian 1 / Druid 4.</p><p></p><p>Me: "Ok, you guys are pretty heavily loaded, so why don't I carry it. I'll start tracking the orcs that went off with the prisoners, then?"</p><p></p><p>DM: "The box doesn't actually have any handles."</p><p></p><p>Me: "Right... I'll secure some rope around it, make a loop, and throw it on my back with the rest of my gear. So, do you guys think I should scou..."</p><p></p><p>DM: "How do you tie a single loop of rope to a box? It's going to slip off. You'll have to use more rope, and like, cross-tie it. It'll use more rope."</p><p></p><p>Me: "Fine, I have 50'. I tie it as many ways as I have to."</p><p></p><p>DM: "I'm going to require a Rope Use check."</p><p></p><p>Me: "Whaaa...? Ever tie a package for shipping? I need to make a check?"</p><p></p><p>DM: "Yes, well, this will be jostled and so on, you have to make sure it's secure."</p><p></p><p>Me: "*sigh* Fine. 16. Do I...?"</p><p></p><p>DM: *very long pause* "Ok, you tie it up."</p><p></p><p>Me: "All right, shall I track then."</p><p></p><p>DM: "Do you have a shield? Ok, you either can't carry the box on your back and draw your sword at the same time, or you won't be able to use your shield."</p><p></p><p>Me: "I dump the box on the ground and start walking."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mmu1, post: 1044578, member: 319"] Definitely not an example of a bad DM, but an example of what to me was a sidetrack and break in suspension of disbelief of epic proportions... We kill a bunch of orcs deep inside a forest after drawing them into an ambush, and we search the area. We find an ornate box they must have looted from their victims (we found them at a battlesite) the DM says weighs about 10 pounds, and has a very good lock we can't open - and we don't want to break it. We're on the track of other orcs who seem to have taken some human soldiers prisoner. I'm playing a very strong Barbarian 1 / Druid 4. Me: "Ok, you guys are pretty heavily loaded, so why don't I carry it. I'll start tracking the orcs that went off with the prisoners, then?" DM: "The box doesn't actually have any handles." Me: "Right... I'll secure some rope around it, make a loop, and throw it on my back with the rest of my gear. So, do you guys think I should scou..." DM: "How do you tie a single loop of rope to a box? It's going to slip off. You'll have to use more rope, and like, cross-tie it. It'll use more rope." Me: "Fine, I have 50'. I tie it as many ways as I have to." DM: "I'm going to require a Rope Use check." Me: "Whaaa...? Ever tie a package for shipping? I need to make a check?" DM: "Yes, well, this will be jostled and so on, you have to make sure it's secure." Me: "*sigh* Fine. 16. Do I...?" DM: *very long pause* "Ok, you tie it up." Me: "All right, shall I track then." DM: "Do you have a shield? Ok, you either can't carry the box on your back and draw your sword at the same time, or you won't be able to use your shield." Me: "I dump the box on the ground and start walking." [/QUOTE]
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