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<blockquote data-quote="vulcan_idic" data-source="post: 2682184" data-attributes="member: 19615"><p>I have to disagree with you. Since birth I've been this way. I'm a closet tactician. The D&D characters I play tend to be tacticians to let that little part of myself out. The reason I love to be a D&D player is so I can be the Man in Black (Princess Bride) - a consummate tactician taking stock of assets, comparing to a given challenge and coming up with the best plan he can to achieve the objective in the way most advantageous to his team...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wesley thought that way (he wasn't working inside a rules system mind you), I think that way, trying to get the greatest effect for the least effort - call it lazy munchkining, but if I can have a robot mower mow my lawn instead of me, I will. Makes more time for gaming. I don't think it indicates a "problem" with a game system, or even necessarily that it's not roleplaying, for characters to think this way. It's not inherent in the system, it's inherent in human nature. If a wizard can only memorize so many spells a day you'd better believe he wants to get as much out of each one as he can so he can keep the others for another time.</p><p></p><p>One of my first posts was a thread I started about the nature of so called <a href="http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=96621" target="_blank">powergaming and the human psyche</a> and I still find the thoughts expressed there by all parties applicable. Whether it be "powergaming" or "wargameyness" or whatever else you might call a player taking full advantage of his resources - I don't see this as a problem, I see it as a natural and logical reaction for a character with the given abilities. After all, you'd better believe whatever villain you're up against won't be wasting his resources - why kill you with a fireball if he can kill you just as dead with a magic missile?</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>As wise writers strive to be accurate and precise while yet being brief so to, wise characters strive to achieve the objective while squandering as few resources as possible - it well behooves them to do so. And that one extra orc you get in your fireball this round is one that won't be slitting your throat the next. And while the player may take a while to see the best spot on the board I find it hard to believe that someone who uses such spells day in and day out won't have a much clearer idea of the boundaries, benefits, and liabilities of each tool at his disposal and will have reduced the casting of such to the barest instinct doing in a heartbeat the same thing that the player controlling him takes long minutes to figure out due to his relatively lesser experience with the tool in question.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vulcan_idic, post: 2682184, member: 19615"] I have to disagree with you. Since birth I've been this way. I'm a closet tactician. The D&D characters I play tend to be tacticians to let that little part of myself out. The reason I love to be a D&D player is so I can be the Man in Black (Princess Bride) - a consummate tactician taking stock of assets, comparing to a given challenge and coming up with the best plan he can to achieve the objective in the way most advantageous to his team... Wesley thought that way (he wasn't working inside a rules system mind you), I think that way, trying to get the greatest effect for the least effort - call it lazy munchkining, but if I can have a robot mower mow my lawn instead of me, I will. Makes more time for gaming. I don't think it indicates a "problem" with a game system, or even necessarily that it's not roleplaying, for characters to think this way. It's not inherent in the system, it's inherent in human nature. If a wizard can only memorize so many spells a day you'd better believe he wants to get as much out of each one as he can so he can keep the others for another time. One of my first posts was a thread I started about the nature of so called [URL=http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=96621]powergaming and the human psyche[/URL] and I still find the thoughts expressed there by all parties applicable. Whether it be "powergaming" or "wargameyness" or whatever else you might call a player taking full advantage of his resources - I don't see this as a problem, I see it as a natural and logical reaction for a character with the given abilities. After all, you'd better believe whatever villain you're up against won't be wasting his resources - why kill you with a fireball if he can kill you just as dead with a magic missile? As wise writers strive to be accurate and precise while yet being brief so to, wise characters strive to achieve the objective while squandering as few resources as possible - it well behooves them to do so. And that one extra orc you get in your fireball this round is one that won't be slitting your throat the next. And while the player may take a while to see the best spot on the board I find it hard to believe that someone who uses such spells day in and day out won't have a much clearer idea of the boundaries, benefits, and liabilities of each tool at his disposal and will have reduced the casting of such to the barest instinct doing in a heartbeat the same thing that the player controlling him takes long minutes to figure out due to his relatively lesser experience with the tool in question. [/QUOTE]
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