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<blockquote data-quote="Jim Hague" data-source="post: 2684664" data-attributes="member: 17550"><p>See, that's an attitude I really can't countenance - the 'better than thou' elitism. Your so-called 'simple fact' is anything but...unless, of course, you can provide a mutally agreed upon definition of 'role-playing games'. And I didn't miss your statement about character abilities affecting play at all - I focused on your clear intent to convey that you're going to favor some players over others, seemingly regardless of the <em>character's</em> abilities in the matter. </p><p></p><p>While I admire your honesty in this matter, I'm rather disgusted by the elitism. It's not a matter of choosing who you play with that irks; rather, it's the tone that's being taken, that your playstyle is somehow 'better' for being exclusive. IMO, it smacks of the cheap theatrics I happily left behind in high school - the 'in' crowd. I've personally witnessed several gaming roups broken up by the 'that's life under the big top' attitude - by favoring those glib or witty players, congratulations, you've lost your impartiality as a GM. By giving special attention to the people that entertain <em>you</em> and not the entire table, you are, in effect, cheating other players who may not be as outgoing, whose play may be solid but workmanlike, out of equal table time. You're employing the fallacy of 'social Darwinism', and as always, no good can come of it.</p><p></p><p>In any case, we've drifted far off topic on this thread, and given the ugly tone things're taking, I don't intend to respond further. Thanks to the folks that have posted, whether I like or agree with them or not. Me, I'm outta here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jim Hague, post: 2684664, member: 17550"] See, that's an attitude I really can't countenance - the 'better than thou' elitism. Your so-called 'simple fact' is anything but...unless, of course, you can provide a mutally agreed upon definition of 'role-playing games'. And I didn't miss your statement about character abilities affecting play at all - I focused on your clear intent to convey that you're going to favor some players over others, seemingly regardless of the [i]character's[/i] abilities in the matter. While I admire your honesty in this matter, I'm rather disgusted by the elitism. It's not a matter of choosing who you play with that irks; rather, it's the tone that's being taken, that your playstyle is somehow 'better' for being exclusive. IMO, it smacks of the cheap theatrics I happily left behind in high school - the 'in' crowd. I've personally witnessed several gaming roups broken up by the 'that's life under the big top' attitude - by favoring those glib or witty players, congratulations, you've lost your impartiality as a GM. By giving special attention to the people that entertain [i]you[/i] and not the entire table, you are, in effect, cheating other players who may not be as outgoing, whose play may be solid but workmanlike, out of equal table time. You're employing the fallacy of 'social Darwinism', and as always, no good can come of it. In any case, we've drifted far off topic on this thread, and given the ugly tone things're taking, I don't intend to respond further. Thanks to the folks that have posted, whether I like or agree with them or not. Me, I'm outta here. [/QUOTE]
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