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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5351303" data-attributes="member: 82106">The problem is the opportunity cost. When instead you could be laying damage on the enemy and instead you're nerfing them a bit and doing a little bit of healing you actually make the encounter LONGER and the party takes more damage in the long run than if you just go STR cleric and break heads. You CAN still go whole-hog super healer cleric and dish out an amazing amount of healing, but you can't really keep a whole party going just with Astral Seal anymore, they're going to have to dip into their surges.The thing is a lot of characters were built on a sort of middle ground lazer/healing kind of build that relied on Astral Seal plus some ranged attacks, and that just doesn't work too well anymore. You're better off either full pacifist heal-bot or skull cracking STR cleric (which while much maligned is still an awesome build, almost too good). Of course now with Essentials the Warpriest option is open, which MAY be a little better STR cleric. I tend to think it still doesn't dish out quite the same damage, but it does have more flexibility. Anyway, surgeless healing is still good IF you have every option to leverage it, otherwise dump Astral Seal, it is really a trap option.</blockquote>