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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 9778224" data-attributes="member: 7023840">Wanted to reply to this! Love good movie talk. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />First, I wanted to make sure that I reiterate that I absolutely loved Love Lies Bleeding. If you look at the five movies above it, I hope you can understand that I'm not slighting it at all. I'm going to discuss my rankings again below, but I just wanted to stress that. As I wrote, there was one all-time masterpiece, five great movies, and then Civil War. You were correct with your spoiler, although the whole bit started before that. Here's the thing- thematically (in terms of the themes of the movie) everything worked really well- I said that I enjoyed it, especially as it started to go off the rails. But ... there was an issue. Without spoiling anything, the problem was that the last parts didn't work with the rest of the movie (IMO) in terms of the film's grammar. It has to do with the POV of the camera (what are we seeing, what does it mean). Either it's 'reality' (magical realism) or it's a filtered character POV (this is the view of how a character feels emotionally or thematically or due to.... altered senses ... or all of those factors). IMO, as much as I understood the ending and loved it thematically, I felt that the film's grammar didn't do the work to establish it and accomplish it correctly. That's not a mortal sin, but it is the difference between that movie and (for example) The Lighthouse, where the film's grammar is always supporting the POV/subjective - so you know it's madness, and not magical realism. Now, I wanted to thank the necromancer who brought this thread back! I did the ranking right after the "film festival," and I think it's always interesting to see how films age. Looking back at the list ... I'm pretty pretty pretty happy with it! My only notes-1. Zone of Interest. I literally have not stopped thinking about this movie. I rewatched it again this year. It is stunningly relevant. I can't recommend it enough. I know ... it's not a subject you want to think about, but you've never seen, or heard, a movie that will stick with you like this one will. Promise.2. I'm on the fence about ranking The Iron Claw at 3. It's a really good movie! It's incredibly powerful with great acting. But ... I haven't thought about it much since I watched it. Still highly recommend, just not sure about putting it at 3.3. On the other hand ... I Saw the TV Glow is a movie I've been thinking about. If you have no idea what the movie is about, watch it without looking it up. Quick backstory- I went in knowing nothing other than it was an A24 horror movie. At a certain point, I was like ... wait, am I missing something? Because it was present early, but it was subtle (to me). And then it all snapped into focus. So ... yeah, it is a horror movie, but not ... that kind of horror movie. 4. Not budging on Civil War. I know people love some of the clips, and the scene with Jesse Plemons remains amazing (in a chilling way), but overall? Perfectly cromulent.</blockquote>

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