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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 9067086" data-attributes="member: 7023840"><p>If you are a streamer, and you are saying, "Hey our big show, the one that we are spending the most money ever in history, the kind that, for the full season, would make the people who made Fast X look up and say, <em>Brah, you're spending too much money</em>, we did great, because we are able to compete with a show on a legacy network......"</p><p></p><p>Then something has gone wrong.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It wasn't number 11. It was number 15. Number 11 was <em>The Boys</em>. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's the thing- they aren't hooking customers. At all. The metrics show that the show drastically underperformed in terms of having viewers simply finish watching the show. And there is no evidence that it drove viewers to Prime.</p><p></p><p>In other words, for most people Prime isn't an actual subscription- it's just something that they have along with free shipping. And for those people who have it for, effectively, free ... the show wasn't compelling enough to have them finish watching it. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, you're not understanding what opportunity cost means. You know that Amazon doesn't make a ton of money on individual book sales, right? Do you think that the cost of this show drove enough book sales, which, given Amazon's profit margins, made this a worthwhile investment?</p><p></p><p>Look, if you like the show, that's great! I enjoyed it for what it was, and will watch Season 2. I am glad that Amazon is willing to light money on fire for my entertainment. But this (along with Citadel and few other shows) is arguably one of the examples people will look back at when they discuss the excesses at the end of the peak of the golden age of the boom of streaming TV we have just experienced. As a business proposition (not a creative one), so far this is massive failure.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 9067086, member: 7023840"] If you are a streamer, and you are saying, "Hey our big show, the one that we are spending the most money ever in history, the kind that, for the full season, would make the people who made Fast X look up and say, [I]Brah, you're spending too much money[/I], we did great, because we are able to compete with a show on a legacy network......" Then something has gone wrong. It wasn't number 11. It was number 15. Number 11 was [I]The Boys[/I]. That's the thing- they aren't hooking customers. At all. The metrics show that the show drastically underperformed in terms of having viewers simply finish watching the show. And there is no evidence that it drove viewers to Prime. In other words, for most people Prime isn't an actual subscription- it's just something that they have along with free shipping. And for those people who have it for, effectively, free ... the show wasn't compelling enough to have them finish watching it. Again, you're not understanding what opportunity cost means. You know that Amazon doesn't make a ton of money on individual book sales, right? Do you think that the cost of this show drove enough book sales, which, given Amazon's profit margins, made this a worthwhile investment? Look, if you like the show, that's great! I enjoyed it for what it was, and will watch Season 2. I am glad that Amazon is willing to light money on fire for my entertainment. But this (along with Citadel and few other shows) is arguably one of the examples people will look back at when they discuss the excesses at the end of the peak of the golden age of the boom of streaming TV we have just experienced. As a business proposition (not a creative one), so far this is massive failure. [/QUOTE]
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