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<blockquote data-quote="Brother MacLaren" data-source="post: 2065342" data-attributes="member: 15999"><p>Eh, the 1.5x brigade led by Hypersmurf has done the literalist route to death. Over and over. No offense, I generally agree with Hyp on most issues, but there's never going to be any consensus on this point.</p><p></p><p>But does it matter? Do the RAW really matter? No DM should use the rules as written - DM's should use the rules in the way that they feel makes the game better. If allowing Druids to use Animal Growth on themselves in Large wildshapes would hurt the game, don't allow it, regardless of whether or not your interpretation of the rules says they should stack. This board is for general discussion of the rules, and that doesn't have to mean just Supreme Court-level parsing of language. Part of the discussion can be "Which interpretation of the rules allows for a better game, and why?" No DM should ever feel intimidated by a rules lawyer arguing a literalist interpretation - and I know most people on this board wouldn't actually do that to their DMs.</p><p></p><p>So, talking ABOUT the rules rather than just trying to argue what they actually say, let me look at it this way:</p><p>Does allowing 1.5x damage make the mounted lance charge unreasonably powerful? Well, it does if you allow people to double-wield lances on a charge using the Oversized Two-Weapon Fighting and Dual Strike feats. And yes, somebody will try that. </p><p>But otherwise? The 1.5x intepretation makes the lance work when the charging greatsword attack would seem superior (Spirited Charge with Power Attack or a hefty Str bonus). And, given the nature of medieval-ish mounted combat, there's nothing wrong with favoring the lance here.</p><p></p><p>Which way makes the game better? 1.5x or 1x? I am starting to think that, while I disagree with the logic presented on why it <em>is</em> allowed, 1.5x <em>should be </em> allowed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brother MacLaren, post: 2065342, member: 15999"] Eh, the 1.5x brigade led by Hypersmurf has done the literalist route to death. Over and over. No offense, I generally agree with Hyp on most issues, but there's never going to be any consensus on this point. But does it matter? Do the RAW really matter? No DM should use the rules as written - DM's should use the rules in the way that they feel makes the game better. If allowing Druids to use Animal Growth on themselves in Large wildshapes would hurt the game, don't allow it, regardless of whether or not your interpretation of the rules says they should stack. This board is for general discussion of the rules, and that doesn't have to mean just Supreme Court-level parsing of language. Part of the discussion can be "Which interpretation of the rules allows for a better game, and why?" No DM should ever feel intimidated by a rules lawyer arguing a literalist interpretation - and I know most people on this board wouldn't actually do that to their DMs. So, talking ABOUT the rules rather than just trying to argue what they actually say, let me look at it this way: Does allowing 1.5x damage make the mounted lance charge unreasonably powerful? Well, it does if you allow people to double-wield lances on a charge using the Oversized Two-Weapon Fighting and Dual Strike feats. And yes, somebody will try that. But otherwise? The 1.5x intepretation makes the lance work when the charging greatsword attack would seem superior (Spirited Charge with Power Attack or a hefty Str bonus). And, given the nature of medieval-ish mounted combat, there's nothing wrong with favoring the lance here. Which way makes the game better? 1.5x or 1x? I am starting to think that, while I disagree with the logic presented on why it [I]is[/I] allowed, 1.5x [I]should be [/I] allowed. [/QUOTE]
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