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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 5124798" data-attributes="member: 82504">Exactly and dont even have to take nature...use Dungeoneering as the alternative and skin it as the listened to every story his adventuring uncle ever told and then researched whether his uncle might be exagerating. Could even use a war dog (a fighters best friend in AD&D) and make a beast master build if you wanted).   People take classes way too... seriously? invest in appropriate background and get a skill that is outside of "ranger" school like street wise or intimidate.Id like to mention there are some ranger feats that are already skinned very nicely like Staggering Strike... as I hit them so hard there heads spin.</blockquote>