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<blockquote data-quote="jbear" data-source="post: 5153209" data-attributes="member: 75065"><p>True. Totally forgot about the two handed weapon requirement. Duh!</p><p> </p><p>Don't get me wrong. I like your build. And taking into consideration what you point out, I'd probably go with an Urgosh and the WIS version. Again, maybe just a personal thing, I prefer to not get hit. True Barbarians don't benefit from WIS, but perception, nature and insight do. Three big skills you have access to right there.</p><p> </p><p>True, you're partly a leader. But partly a striker. At the beginning of a lot of fights you can't reach the enemies unless you charge. Relase the Howl! Then once you've charged the big boss, why not set up the crew with some vulnerability? Plus some times you can't charge ... say against a solo creature or surrounded by a horde of flesh eating nasties. The difference between a d8 and a d6 extra damage is pretty minimal compared to the ability to use the power on a charge. Besides, do you really need to give the monsters an extra incentive to hit you if you are only wearing chainmail?</p><p> </p><p>With one feat you get scale armour, leaving a slot for something else (supposing you intend to eventually graduate from chain to scale). No armour penalty to your skills is nice. Chainmail is great if you want to get hit. Personally I dislike chain, but that's just me. Slow and -1 penalty, yeck! If you don't care if you are going to get hit why not just take Hide Armour Expertise in that case and remain more mobile. heck why not just wear straight hide or even leather or cloth. You could wear a loin cloth and paint a bulls eye on your chest too (joking <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />) 'Pissing away your hybrid talent', those words might be a bit strong ... 4 temp hp when you kill something becomes relative depending on how your DM builds encounters. In my game you'd be laughing. I love minions, so you'd have a near constant buffer and it woud be worth bumping that up to 9 temp hp with a feat. But with all the other feats on your list your likely going to have to wait for that quite a while. Lvl 6 after getting your talent, your armour and your weapon (unless your human ofc).</p><p> </p><p>Actually a Fighter/Runepriest could be pretty decent with a similar mechanic as what you suggest for the Barbarian using Battlerager vigor. And as there is perfect symetry with armour proficiency you have either chain or plate armour without having to waste a feat. Obviously they don't hit as hard, but damn are you sticky thanks to your combat challenge power. Having said all that this is probably a better option for what I am looking at than the Barbarian, hands down. I'd stll be tempted to pump WIS and hit harder on a miss. Which means I'd lose the benefit inherent to Battlerager Vigor so Combat Superiority would be the way to go. Hit me if you can... but if you miss, you will be punished!! And I would have saved myself an oh so valuable feat slot and gotten a decent power from my Hybrid Talent! Say no more. I've sold myself. Rolling one now!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jbear, post: 5153209, member: 75065"] True. Totally forgot about the two handed weapon requirement. Duh! Don't get me wrong. I like your build. And taking into consideration what you point out, I'd probably go with an Urgosh and the WIS version. Again, maybe just a personal thing, I prefer to not get hit. True Barbarians don't benefit from WIS, but perception, nature and insight do. Three big skills you have access to right there. True, you're partly a leader. But partly a striker. At the beginning of a lot of fights you can't reach the enemies unless you charge. Relase the Howl! Then once you've charged the big boss, why not set up the crew with some vulnerability? Plus some times you can't charge ... say against a solo creature or surrounded by a horde of flesh eating nasties. The difference between a d8 and a d6 extra damage is pretty minimal compared to the ability to use the power on a charge. Besides, do you really need to give the monsters an extra incentive to hit you if you are only wearing chainmail? With one feat you get scale armour, leaving a slot for something else (supposing you intend to eventually graduate from chain to scale). No armour penalty to your skills is nice. Chainmail is great if you want to get hit. Personally I dislike chain, but that's just me. Slow and -1 penalty, yeck! If you don't care if you are going to get hit why not just take Hide Armour Expertise in that case and remain more mobile. heck why not just wear straight hide or even leather or cloth. You could wear a loin cloth and paint a bulls eye on your chest too (joking :)) 'Pissing away your hybrid talent', those words might be a bit strong ... 4 temp hp when you kill something becomes relative depending on how your DM builds encounters. In my game you'd be laughing. I love minions, so you'd have a near constant buffer and it woud be worth bumping that up to 9 temp hp with a feat. But with all the other feats on your list your likely going to have to wait for that quite a while. Lvl 6 after getting your talent, your armour and your weapon (unless your human ofc). Actually a Fighter/Runepriest could be pretty decent with a similar mechanic as what you suggest for the Barbarian using Battlerager vigor. And as there is perfect symetry with armour proficiency you have either chain or plate armour without having to waste a feat. Obviously they don't hit as hard, but damn are you sticky thanks to your combat challenge power. Having said all that this is probably a better option for what I am looking at than the Barbarian, hands down. I'd stll be tempted to pump WIS and hit harder on a miss. Which means I'd lose the benefit inherent to Battlerager Vigor so Combat Superiority would be the way to go. Hit me if you can... but if you miss, you will be punished!! And I would have saved myself an oh so valuable feat slot and gotten a decent power from my Hybrid Talent! Say no more. I've sold myself. Rolling one now! [/QUOTE]
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