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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 5764419" data-attributes="member: 6669384">Actually, the one PC I didn't list is probably the "best" in the party:  I run a Bard9/Sand Shaper1/Sublime Chord1.Yeah, the Bard is the best offensive caster in the party, and the Monk is the best fighter.But the Bard is likely to retire soon per choice or per force.  The current DM is unhappy with his use of Blade Weave in melee, unhappy that a 2nd level spell can keep an opponent out of combat, round after round, if they have a poor Will save.  (For those unfamiliar, it gives a melee fighter/caster a single touch attack each round, on top of their normal complement of attacks.  If the TA hits, the target has to make a Will save or be Dazed for a round, losing all actions.)As a result, the DM has been giving Iron Will to everything that takes the field, or just picking opponents that can't be affected by it.  And it's sad that it's the 9 Strength Bard's melee prowess that has the DM upset.  Sad that the Bard is even being forced into melee often enough to piss off the DM with his tactics.I wonder how he'll react to Hold Person? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />In the mean time, however, I can't design the other players' characters for them.  Whatever I do will have to be done through my own character design.So, on the one hand I can go with a tricked-out spell caster.On the other hand I can go with a tricked out melee fighter. Or even a non-tricked out one.  A straight powerhouse fighter would set a direction as well.Hmmm...  In light of my other recent thread, I wonder how a WereBear fighter would work out?  Applying the Natural Lycanthrope template straight from the book to a well statted Human Fighter or Ranger would take some harsh ECL hits, and his hit points would likely be a bit weak, but he'd be an absolute horror in combat.  (1 level of Fighter or Ranger, 6 dice of Bear and +3 level adjustment totals to 10th level, right in our range.  +16 Strength, Dex +2, Con +6, Wisdom +2, a stack of feats, natural armor, DR10/Silver, enhanced senses. )Not that I'd do the were-Bear thing.  Like I said, not trying to be party dominant, just trying to up their game a bit, make the party more capable of fighting things in what's supposed to be our own weight class.But it is a bit of fun to think about, isn't it?</blockquote>

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