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<blockquote data-quote="Ridley's Cohort" data-source="post: 114255" data-attributes="member: 545">Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Striking an Object rules questionWhen you gain the benefit of having a weapon or shield (threat area, AC bonus), it is presumed you are actively waving it about in a useful active manner.&nbsp; So I can see why there may be no AC roll involved if I attempt to attack your weapon or shield.&nbsp; You are already waving the weapon under my nose.I would not make the same assumptions about any random object I happen to be holding in my hand.From the SRD:Attacking a held, carried, or worn object provokes an attack of opportunity. Objects that are held, carried, or worn by a combatant, are harder to hit. The object uses the combatant's Dexterity modifier (not its own –5) and any magic deflection bonus to AC the combatant may have. The attacker doesn't get any special bonus for attacking the object. If the target object is in the opponent's hand, it gets a +5 AC bonus because the opponent can move it quickly out of harm's way.This does not say anything about only the deflection bonus applying.&nbsp; Reading this, I would certainly say cover applies.Note that if it did not mention deflection bonus, we would not be debating cover bonus but whether deflection applies to held objects or not.&nbsp; It would be ambiguous.Remember these rules apply not only to objects in the hand, but any objectI am wearing on my body.&nbsp; Ignoring cover bonuses will start to get really weird results.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ridley's Cohort, post: 114255, member: 545"] [b]Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Striking an Object rules question[/b] When you gain the benefit of having a weapon or shield (threat area, AC bonus), it is presumed you are actively waving it about in a useful active manner. So I can see why there may be no AC roll involved if I attempt to attack your weapon or shield. You are already waving the weapon under my nose. I would not make the same assumptions about any random object I happen to be holding in my hand. From the SRD:[i] Attacking a held, carried, or worn object provokes an attack of opportunity. Objects that are held, carried, or worn by a combatant, are harder to hit. The object uses the combatant's Dexterity modifier (not its own –5) and any magic deflection bonus to AC the combatant may have. The attacker doesn't get any special bonus for attacking the object. If the target object is in the opponent's hand, it gets a +5 AC bonus because the opponent can move it quickly out of harm's way.[/i] This does not say anything about [i]only[/i] the deflection bonus applying. Reading this, I would certainly say cover applies. Note that if it did not mention deflection bonus, we would not be debating cover bonus but whether deflection applies to held objects or not. It would be ambiguous. Remember these rules apply not only to objects in the hand, but [i]any objectI am wearing on my body[/i]. Ignoring cover bonuses will start to get really weird results. [/QUOTE]

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