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Message: <blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 6179151" data-attributes="member: 1210">I think the poll is poorly phrased and somewhat confusing. Having read the thread, I get where you're coming from. Personally, I think "Knight" is better as a background than as a subclass, because it is something that ought to be available to many classes of characters. However, I don't think we ought to strip all background elements from subclasses; I'm fine with background elements specific to the class being tied to a subclass. I like the idea of being able to mix concepts with your class/subclass/background or focus in one area.So for an example, I like the idea of a "knight" background. So you could be a knight fighter or a knight paladin, or heck, even a knight warlock or wizard. Then, if you are of a class that naturally synergizes with your knightly stuff and you want a subclass that ties you even more tightly to the knight thing, I like the idea of that being available too. So maybe you're a knight paladin (cavalier). OTOH maybe you're a weirder mix and the knight stuff is just  in your background- a knight rogue (trapsmith), say. There is no reason whatsoever not to allow a player to 'layer' his pc with knighthood in whatever degree. The same thing applies to other background elements. Let's say I want to take the Guild Thief background. If I want to be superguildthiefman, why not play a guild thief rogue (thief)? Or if I want to play a more unusual pc, how about a guild thief wizard (enchanter)? I like the idea of being able to mix in different degrees of a given character element through applying different levels of background, class and subclass choice (and possibly feats or skills) to "dial in" your concept.</blockquote>

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