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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 9546205" data-attributes="member: 15700">A couple things. B&amp;B was meant to be a basic version for 5e inspired by B/X and have that old school feel in the same way B/X was for AD&amp;D (I mean, just look at the front and back cover art lol). It was meant to be compatible with 5e for the most part. Then Shadowdark came out later and really filled that niche of making what I feel is an OSR version of 5e. I don't view Shadowdark as basic 5e because there are major differences in the rules and mechanics.&nbsp; You really can't take a Shadowdark PC and a 5e PC and have them together in the same adventure. You could with B/X and AD&amp;D, and with B&amp;B and 5e with minimal inconsistencies. So with this thought exercise? There is the new 2024 version and there are lessons learned with B&amp;B that could have been done a bit better IMO. So while an OSR feel basic version of 5e is not in scope (Shadowdark has that covered), there is an opportunity to really focus on a basic 5e primer. In my head, that means the core game starts completely stripped down. That's what the new players will experience at low levels--just the critical terms and rules. Then a secondary module that starts to introduce some of the 2024 5e things (terms, rules, etc.). Kind of modular learn as you go approach. Agreed, as I stated directly above.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 9546205, member: 15700"] A couple things. B&B was meant to be a basic version for 5e inspired by B/X and have that old school feel in the same way B/X was for AD&D (I mean, just look at the front and back cover art lol). It was meant to be compatible with 5e for the most part. Then Shadowdark came out later and really filled that niche of making what I feel is an OSR version of 5e. I don't view Shadowdark as basic 5e because there are major differences in the rules and mechanics. You really can't take a Shadowdark PC and a 5e PC and have them together in the same adventure. You could with B/X and AD&D, and with B&B and 5e with minimal inconsistencies. So with this thought exercise? There is the new 2024 version and there are lessons learned with B&B that could have been done a bit better IMO. So while an OSR feel basic version of 5e is not in scope (Shadowdark has that covered), there is an opportunity to really focus on a basic 5e primer. In my head, that means the core game starts completely stripped down. That's what the new players will experience at low levels--just the critical terms and rules. Then a secondary module that starts to introduce some of the 2024 5e things (terms, rules, etc.). Kind of modular learn as you go approach. Agreed, as I stated directly above. [/QUOTE]

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