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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 1298211" data-attributes="member: 710">If you speak of a clever solution, and mean a simple rule to adjucate if a certain effect will work: no, there probably is no one. It is the DM who has the responsibility if he thinks a &quot;Holy Sword&quot; woulnd`t work for a certain person. If it is the Holy Sword of Mordor (if there was one), maybe an cruel rapist serial killer can swing it without any problems, but if it was the Holy Sword of &quot;Jarod the Just and Brave&quot;, he wouldn´t be able to use it. (just as an example)(Removing aligment could also allow us to get rid of something I always considered stupid: Why would someone, just because he worshipped an evil god, consider his magical uber weapon &quot;unholy&quot;? It is clearly devoted to his god, so it should be holy to him. Now, if it was the chosen weapon of a a Goodkiller, it might be considered unholy)If you hesitate to remove alignment all together, I think the D20 Modern Allegiance system is not too bad. It allows you a bit better to define what is important to you (allowing you to have an allegiance like (good, United States Marine Force) but at the same time you still have the old alignments in it so you could still adjucate the old D&amp;D items.(Still, I prefer my system without any Alignment system, or at least one without rulewise consequences)Arcana Unearthed is also a D&amp;D variant (even if not in a &quot;legal&quot; way) without Alignments. Since I will mostly use the 3.5 monsters for AU (if they do fit to the setting), and will also use its DR system, I will have to tweak some effects in regard to this. I already decided to allow Bane weapons to ignore any natural and innate Damage Reduction of a creature, and to allow partial ignorce if only partial prerequisites are met (like with Holy and Silver - Silver weapons ignore a bit, but not all of the DR), and allow Magic Users and Priests to &quot;bless&quot; weapons to be fulfill any kind of alignment specific requirement against DR (so a blessed greatsword would work both against Devils and Angels)Mustrum Ridcully</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 1298211, member: 710"] If you speak of a clever solution, and mean a simple rule to adjucate if a certain effect will work: no, there probably is no one. It is the DM who has the responsibility if he thinks a "Holy Sword" woulnd`t work for a certain person. If it is the Holy Sword of Mordor (if there was one), maybe an cruel rapist serial killer can swing it without any problems, but if it was the Holy Sword of "Jarod the Just and Brave", he wouldn´t be able to use it. (just as an example) (Removing aligment could also allow us to get rid of something I always considered stupid: Why would someone, just because he worshipped an evil god, consider his magical uber weapon "unholy"? It is clearly devoted to his god, so it should be holy to him. Now, if it was the chosen weapon of a a Goodkiller, it might be considered unholy) If you hesitate to remove alignment all together, I think the D20 Modern Allegiance system is not too bad. It allows you a bit better to define what is important to you (allowing you to have an allegiance like (good, United States Marine Force) but at the same time you still have the old alignments in it so you could still adjucate the old D&D items. (Still, I prefer my system without any Alignment system, or at least one without rulewise consequences) Arcana Unearthed is also a D&D variant (even if not in a "legal" way) without Alignments. Since I will mostly use the 3.5 monsters for AU (if they do fit to the setting), and will also use its DR system, I will have to tweak some effects in regard to this. I already decided to allow Bane weapons to ignore any natural and innate Damage Reduction of a creature, and to allow partial ignorce if only partial prerequisites are met (like with Holy and Silver - Silver weapons ignore a bit, but not all of the DR), and allow Magic Users and Priests to "bless" weapons to be fulfill any kind of alignment specific requirement against DR (so a blessed greatsword would work both against Devils and Angels) Mustrum Ridcully [/QUOTE]

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