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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8639893" data-attributes="member: 18">I mean, to be clear that's not the comparison I'm making, mine was 256/224/192, which is the three most recent setting-books. The 64 is a different measure - that's setting and mechanics/rules only.If we to compare that 64 to other books we need to be a bit more careful, and check how much of each book is those. It's hard for me to give exact numbers because I don't have the physical copies for most.Also I've checked and it seems like some sites have it wrong for Ravnica, they say 320 pages, and someone here said that was right and it had 80 pages of monsters, but double-checking, it seems like it's 256 pages and about 70 pages of monsters. Looking at a copy of the contents it looks like it breaks down as 183 pages setting and rules (173 if you don't count magic items in that), the rest monsters. So nearly 3x as much setting/rules as Spelljammer, and slightly more monsters too, and no adventure. The last definitely-320-page WotC setting book was I believe Eberron.With VRGtR, 256 pages total, looking at a scanned contents it looks like it breaks down to:160 pages rules/setting,35 pages general horror advice20 pages not-great adventure30-odd pages of monstersUnfortunately because they try to cover a crazy amount of ground in the setting it really feels insufficient.Strixhaven, 224 pages total is basically an adventure with a setting taped on:40 pages rules/setting140 pages adventure40-odd pages of monsters/NPCsThat's like, not really a setting.It appears Spelljammer, 192 pages total is similar but neater and waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more expensive.64 pages rules/setting64 pages adventure64 pages monstersSo unless these two are aberrations, we can expect any DS/PS setting books to similarly basically be an adventure and some monsters with a minor setting tacked on. I'm hoping they are aberrations, but it's quite weird.This is why I don't expect PS. They've got multiple crap versions of Sigil, the only other WotC material on Sigil is total crap, and WotC published the adventure that killed Sigil as a setting (not TSR), then according to Monte Cook, refused to publish the one which would fix Sigil. Kind of seems like they might have it in for Sigil lol, given they'd had the game for 22+ years and never done anything remotely positive or even mildly respectful with it, and keep coming out with "The poor man's Sigil" takes. Oh well. If Planescape remains the Nirvana (the band) of settings, so be it.I expect we'll see some godawful version of Dark Sun at this point, which manages to annoy everyone by changing the setting just enough that it doesn't feel right, not including Psions, reprinting existing psionic subclasses and maybe, at most adding one, having no or very poor rules for preserving/defiling and somehow managing to chicken out on/mess up the environmental message even as climate change causes chaos in front of us, and just having a big-ass adventure take up most of the page count.Really hoping I'm wrong on that.What they do with the 1-2 "entirely new" settings is of more interest to me. I'm really hoping they're actual settings, with plenty of detail and stuff to engage with, not just more adventures with a small setting stuck on the side. At least with Dragonlance they're calling it an adventure.</blockquote>

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