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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ferghis" data-source="post: 6120189" data-attributes="member: 40483">If this were RAW, the fact that the marked penalty applies attacks that do not include the defender is a bit confusing. The word include indicates being part of a greater group. If the attack targets a greater group, it must mean that the attack is not each individual attack roll.At my tables, we usually end up defining as one attack any one thing that is tied to one damage roll. Under this rubric, twin shot and monster attacks that allow them to make multiple basic attacks are separate attacks, while a fireball is one big attack.</blockquote>