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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6122949" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Yeah, Level+8 average damage is a good rule, with 'limited' attacks doing +25% and brutes doing up to +50%. Obviously you can eyeball from there when you have effects and multi-target attacks, etc. A good solid hit from most MM3 monsters will probably come close to bloodying a medium hit point PC. So, for instance a level 1 monster should do something like 1d8+4 with an at-will single-target melee/ranged attack. A nice 11 damage hit would bloody most wizards, but probably wouldn't bloody a rogue, cleric or warlord, and definitely wouldn't bloody most defenders at level 1. Since damage goes up by about 1 point per level and hit points at more like 6 per level clearly things level off some. OTOH most monsters at higher levels have wider damage ranges and more potent limited attacks.</p></blockquote><p></p>