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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6124340" data-attributes="member: 82106">The chance is pretty low even with heroic tier PCs. The lowest possible PC starting HP is 18. That would require 27 damage to insta-gank. While a Duergar Scout CAN do 38 damage it would have to crit (or max its damage) to do that, after hitting our level 1 wizard while not being seen (IE effectively has to be invisible, though I guess technically one can argue other situations). Obviously they are quite good at becoming invisible and will surely make one or two of these attacks in an encounter. Still, the average damage is 23.5, and only a level one PC Wizard (or a few other classes with min hit points) with an 8 CON is THAT vulnerable. A wizard with a 12 CON for instance has 22 hit points, and can only be killed with 33 damage, unlikely. In any case, it IS a level +3 lurker monster, so this is the worst case scenario for any PC to be in pretty much. There are a few other monsters that can do similar things to low level PCs, the famous Halfling Slinger for instance is pretty deadly. Still, this is more a reflection of a few monsters being oddly more deadly than the rest than anything else. A level 5 Gnoll Skulker for instance can do only a max of 23 damage, not enough to gank even the weakest level 1 PC. A level 6 Thri-Kreen Ambusher maxes at 32 points (and interestingly has no restrictions on this, though 2d6 of it is an encounter power). Honestly I think that Duergar is nearly unique at its level in terms of lurker single-shot damage output. No MM3 lurker at 5-7 level is even close except the Thri-Kreen. In any case, none of these other lurkers would kill a level 1 PC, let alone one 2 levels closer or one that was stronger. Even the Duergar wouldn't fell a maxed out level 1 Warden, let alone kill it.</blockquote>

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