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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GrimCo" data-source="post: 9459943" data-attributes="member: 7044462">Same here. I quite like the balance between simple and complex. Like my friend said " 5e is good mix of 2ed ad&d and 3.x". You can make solid party using fairly simpe and straight forward classes, or you can make it more complex by choosing others and multiclassing. Life cleric, wizard ( evoker or abjurer), champion fighter and thief rogue and you have perfectly good party to tackle the game. There are enough of classes and subclass and multi classing to mix and match to your hearts desire if you want more complex characters, but still enough easy straight forward options if you want just hop in. I like 3.x. I played it for years. It was edition i started with. But you couldn't pay me to run it these days. Nor would i play in 3.x/PF1 game (declined invitiation to PF1 game recently). I just don't have patience and processing power for it. Was it a bad game though? No, it was good game. But for me and my group, in this stage of our lives, 5e is best there is.</blockquote>