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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Greg K" data-source="post: 6071196" data-attributes="member: 5038">Off the top of my head1. Level Drain2. XP Costs for item creation and certain spells3. Imbalance between casters and non-casters4. Races: a. Non biological (i.e. cultural) aspects/abilities (e.g. combat bonuses, stonecunning, etc.) built into the racesb.  Elf immunity to charm as absolute instead of a save bonusc.   Half elf immunity to charm as absolute instead of a save bonus5. Clerica. Clerics of non-martial deities getting armor proficiency and shield proficiencyb. Clerics having access to all divine spells rather than deity domain spellsc. all clerics spontaneously casting heaing/inflict spellsd. all clerics having turn/rebuke undead regardless of deity's domains6. Druida. Poison Immunity instead of a bonus to saving throwsb. Wild Shaping into  plant creatures, elementals, etc. c. lack of home terrain being a consideration for abilities7. Fightera.  Fighters with less skill training compared to other classes8. Monk: a. Purity of Body and Diamond Body granting immunity instead of bonus to savesb. Timeless Body, Tongue of Sun and Moon, Empty Body, Perfect Self as set class abilities9. Paladina. Aura of Courage granting immunity instead of a bonus to savesb. spellcasting starting at 4th level instead of first levelc. lack of a core option to support non-spellcasting paladins10. Rangera. spellcasting starting at 4th level instead of first levelb. lack of a core option to support non-spellcasting rangers 11. Multiclassinga. Free Multi-classing: it should require trainingb. Multi-classing granting the new classes armor proficiency, weapon proficiency, and good save bonus. It should require taking feats (including bonus feats)12. Rage, Sneak Attack, Turn Undead as class abilities instead of being feats13. Skillsa. Bluff, Tumble, Sense Bluff in combat not being opposed by BAB b. Monster Knowledge tied to other skills instead of being their own skillsc.  Too many trained only skills14.Equipment: Spiked chains, urgosh's, elf thinblades, sunrods, tanglefoot bags, halfling riding dogs, etc.15. Combata. Martial attacks not being able to blind, stun, save or die, knock prone, knock back, force movement, inflict ability damage, inflict movement penalties, disable beholder eyes, etc.b. Inability to take a move action and Full attackc. negative hit pointsd. lack of drawbacks for hit point loss until 0e. Unearthed Arcana death and dying save not as core rules16. Saving Throwsa. different base progressions- especially, when there is no medium progression. Just use one progression with a bonus (or bonuses) from the character's initial class17. Spells: - auto hit magic missile- knock being automatic- protection from evil preventing all mind control from evil beings- Spells effects reduced by target level/hit die- Rope Trick, Law/Chaos spells- Miracle, Wish18. The magic item creation rules (Go with the revised Artificer's Handbooks  slot creation system19.  Lack of core Hero Point mechanic20. Lack of core UA Incantations21. Most of the WOTC supplemental material</blockquote>

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