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<blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 5862593" data-attributes="member: 43019"><p>Heya <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>Absolutely true.</p><p></p><p>Yeah, it depends on the optimization level of the group, but generally the powers that are stunned are, like, 2W + stunned, instead of 2 attacks for 2W. So, we're talking about giving up say 50-100 damage to put the stunned on. Which might be enough to trigger a phase change, which is kinda better than stunned, in a way.</p><p></p><p>Hrmm, maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anything that would give him saves against dominated until end of next turn.</p><p></p><p>For example, a dominate druid with charm beast x 2, dominate beast, and infiltrating drone (a build I've seen in play) can dominate for 4 rounds, and I didn't even look to see if they got anything better at 27 than what showed up for the L24 playtest I've played in <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Invokers at that level are likely to take Compel Action, cause encounter blast 6 dominate 1 turn is awesome too.</p><p></p><p>And dominates means you'll generate a lot of OAs, which can add up to a heap of damage. Probably 2 OAs per relevant PC, since Kronos acts twice and would be dominated for both of his turns.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="keterys, post: 5862593, member: 43019"] Heya :) Absolutely true. Yeah, it depends on the optimization level of the group, but generally the powers that are stunned are, like, 2W + stunned, instead of 2 attacks for 2W. So, we're talking about giving up say 50-100 damage to put the stunned on. Which might be enough to trigger a phase change, which is kinda better than stunned, in a way. Hrmm, maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anything that would give him saves against dominated until end of next turn. For example, a dominate druid with charm beast x 2, dominate beast, and infiltrating drone (a build I've seen in play) can dominate for 4 rounds, and I didn't even look to see if they got anything better at 27 than what showed up for the L24 playtest I've played in :) Invokers at that level are likely to take Compel Action, cause encounter blast 6 dominate 1 turn is awesome too. And dominates means you'll generate a lot of OAs, which can add up to a heap of damage. Probably 2 OAs per relevant PC, since Kronos acts twice and would be dominated for both of his turns. [/QUOTE]
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