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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ForeverSlayer" data-source="post: 5637384" data-attributes="member: 91812">Death and Unconscious has nothing to do with the argument.  These conditions are self explanatory.dead: A character dies when his or her hit points drop to –10 orlower. A character also dies when his or her Constitution drops to 0,and certain spells or effects (such as failing a Fortitude save againstmassive damage) can also kill a character outright. Death causes thecharacter’s soul to leave the body and journey to an Outer Plane.Dead characters cannot benefit from normal or magical healing, butthey can be restored to life via magic. A dead body decays normallyunless magically preserved, but magic that restores a dead characterto life also restores the body either to full health or to its conditionat the time of death (depending on the spell or device).unconscious: Knocked out and helpless. Unconsciousness canresult from having current hit points between –1 and –9, or fromnonlethal damage in excess of current hit points. A character who isunconscious as a result of having current hit points between –1 and–9 who becomes stable has a 10% chance every hour to becomeconscious. A character who is unconscious as a result of havingnonlethal damage in excess of current hit points has a 10% chanceevery minute to wake up and be staggered.helpless: Paralyzed, held, bound, sleeping, unconscious, or otherwisecompletely at an opponent’s mercy. A helpless target istreated as having a Dexterity of 0 (–5 modifier). Melee attacksagainst a helpless target get a +4 bonus. An attacker can use a coupde grace against a helpless target.From the PHB. It all goes together.You could argue that because you are stunned and you can't move that gives you a 0 movement which will not allow you to take a 5 foot step.  You have to have at least a movement of 5 feet in order to take a 5 foot step and since you are denied any actions your movement would be considered a 0.</blockquote>

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