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<blockquote data-quote="LostSoul" data-source="post: 4839888" data-attributes="member: 386"><p>To expand on this:</p><p></p><p>Fighters have an at-will Power called Tide of Iron. You score a hit vs. AC, you deal damage based on your weapon and push the bad guy back 5 feet. You need a shield to use this power.</p><p></p><p>Let's say I have a buff (high Str) Paladin who wields a shield. I describe my attack like this: "I bash my shield in his face and force him back."</p><p></p><p>That sounds a lot like Tide of Iron, eh? There's no good in-game/fictional reason why you can't do it; it's not like it takes more time than an attack, your shield (especially if it's spiked) is probably going to hurt, and yeah. Tide of Iron "stunt". That steps on the Fighter's toes.</p><p></p><p>Where I part ways (I believe!) with Ariosto is that I think that this sort of thing should be allowed, even encouraged. I personally care more about seeing an emphasis on colour than I do about niche protection and I don't think game balance is affected - or if it is, it's worth it.</p><p></p><p>(Strictly speaking, it wouldn't be as good as Tide of Iron since you'd be using your shield as an improvised weapon, losing the weapon proficiency bonus to attack and doing only 1d4 damage.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LostSoul, post: 4839888, member: 386"] To expand on this: Fighters have an at-will Power called Tide of Iron. You score a hit vs. AC, you deal damage based on your weapon and push the bad guy back 5 feet. You need a shield to use this power. Let's say I have a buff (high Str) Paladin who wields a shield. I describe my attack like this: "I bash my shield in his face and force him back." That sounds a lot like Tide of Iron, eh? There's no good in-game/fictional reason why you can't do it; it's not like it takes more time than an attack, your shield (especially if it's spiked) is probably going to hurt, and yeah. Tide of Iron "stunt". That steps on the Fighter's toes. Where I part ways (I believe!) with Ariosto is that I think that this sort of thing should be allowed, even encouraged. I personally care more about seeing an emphasis on colour than I do about niche protection and I don't think game balance is affected - or if it is, it's worth it. (Strictly speaking, it wouldn't be as good as Tide of Iron since you'd be using your shield as an improvised weapon, losing the weapon proficiency bonus to attack and doing only 1d4 damage.) [/QUOTE]
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