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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elda King" data-source="post: 4641475" data-attributes="member: 81688">It's nonsense to say that in 3E, you could make something the rules don't cover and in 4E you can't because the rules are clearer. If it makes sense and is fun, change the rules, as you would do in any other game.I only think that any stunt, wether it uses or not a power, shouldn't be better than a power. Ok, sometimes you can reward a player and give an extra effect that is slightly better, or as good as a power that the player is using; but, if my player would knock a target prone with his shield, he would deal less damage (if any damage at all) or have to make a check.This way, it becomes more balanced, avoid player abuse and makes more sense - there are things the character is trained to do, he should be better at them.</blockquote>