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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 4645306" data-attributes="member: 2067">It can do that in any edition. But since this thread is about 4e, I thought I'd point out some of 4e's specific complexities on the issue. To a pretty big extent, it was assumed that you would "stunt" with powers in earlier editions (which is part of the reason for 3e's sprawling rules system). 4e does not assume that.And they're very specific about what those stunts can accomplish, and what they're there to do. I don't think the omission of status ailments was at all unintentional, for this reason. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> This doesn't include stunting "with powers," and especially not on a reliable basis. The difference is in the DM's judgment, mostly. If awesome verbiage "wins" more often, that favors certain kinds of players (and classes) over others. The rules, meanwhile, aren't subjective. Which is the whole "being fine with burning the rules" thing I mentioned. It's not a condemnation of anything, just a point that it might happen.I don't quite understand what you mean by this. It seems to me that powers and actions are two things that are both used for balance, rather than one or the other exclusively.That's pretty subjective, really, and certainly can have repercussions beyond "mage hand for one round."It also penalizes someone who's more comfortable working with the rules rather than around them. Again, not necessarily a problem, but something to watch for (especially if you have a rules-lawery player at the same table as a metaphor wizard). Possibly, but that quote from me doesn't have much to do with balancing the roles, so you'd have to explain your case a little better before I cop to anything. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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