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<blockquote data-quote="Vraille Darkfang" data-source="post: 2220345" data-attributes="member: 16989"><p>Not to get political, but....</p><p></p><p>George Bush is actually pretty smart (as was Bubba & Georgie Sr.) Look at their educational backgrounds. Bubba was even a very distinguished scholar. To get really high in politics you have to have some brains about you.</p><p></p><p>Which brings me to my point.</p><p></p><p>Trying to boil real-world personalities into the Int-Wis-Cha debate (while fun), just eventually shows the weakness of using 3 numbers to illistrate a person's persona.</p><p></p><p>Look at Bill Clinton (usually regarded as having high Int-Rhodes Scholar; high Cha- look at what he talked his way out of; low Wis; look at what he got himself into, Cigar anyone?)</p><p></p><p>Whereas Kerry, Gore & George Jr seem to have a high Int & Wis, but low Charisma (jut not very good at appealing to the masses).</p><p></p><p>Reagan: (High, very high, personal Cha, but seemed to never really be aware of whats going on-of course I only remember him at the end of his terms, when Alzihmer's was probably just beginning to surface).</p><p></p><p>You can look back at previous (exaggerated) presidents (both US & foreign) and find easy examples of High/Low scores, but those in the middle are pretty hard to figure out), Such as Teddy Roosevelt, John Kennedy, Nixon, Napoleon.</p><p></p><p>Form a D&D standpoint. Unless your using a variant of the Divine Right of Kings, low mental abilities will never rule a nation. And if an Int 6 person sits on the throne, you can bet there's a Vizar with high stats somewhere in the background.</p><p></p><p>In my games, when a leader does something stupid, it's not because he has a low ability score, it's usually due to a failure to comprehend all the ramifications of his desicion, or due to following his own moral code (alignment).</p><p></p><p>Not trying to be poltical, trying to be historical,</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vraille Darkfang, post: 2220345, member: 16989"] Not to get political, but.... George Bush is actually pretty smart (as was Bubba & Georgie Sr.) Look at their educational backgrounds. Bubba was even a very distinguished scholar. To get really high in politics you have to have some brains about you. Which brings me to my point. Trying to boil real-world personalities into the Int-Wis-Cha debate (while fun), just eventually shows the weakness of using 3 numbers to illistrate a person's persona. Look at Bill Clinton (usually regarded as having high Int-Rhodes Scholar; high Cha- look at what he talked his way out of; low Wis; look at what he got himself into, Cigar anyone?) Whereas Kerry, Gore & George Jr seem to have a high Int & Wis, but low Charisma (jut not very good at appealing to the masses). Reagan: (High, very high, personal Cha, but seemed to never really be aware of whats going on-of course I only remember him at the end of his terms, when Alzihmer's was probably just beginning to surface). You can look back at previous (exaggerated) presidents (both US & foreign) and find easy examples of High/Low scores, but those in the middle are pretty hard to figure out), Such as Teddy Roosevelt, John Kennedy, Nixon, Napoleon. Form a D&D standpoint. Unless your using a variant of the Divine Right of Kings, low mental abilities will never rule a nation. And if an Int 6 person sits on the throne, you can bet there's a Vizar with high stats somewhere in the background. In my games, when a leader does something stupid, it's not because he has a low ability score, it's usually due to a failure to comprehend all the ramifications of his desicion, or due to following his own moral code (alignment). Not trying to be poltical, trying to be historical, [/QUOTE]
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