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<blockquote data-quote="shilsen" data-source="post: 3563858" data-attributes="member: 198"><p>One thing that it sounds like you need to remind yourself is that if you run D&D mostly as written, then characters at level 10 are not, by any stretch of the imagination, normal humans. They are superheroes in fantasy clothing, or, if you prefer, mythological figures. </p><p></p><p>Batman wouldn't get surprised by a normal hoodlum hiding in an alley, but the Joker can pull a trick over him. Cuchulainn would never be killed by a single spell, however deadly. That's what you're dealing with at 10th lvl. Your PCs are supposed to be unstoppable by normal human enemies. And enemies close to their level shouldn't have any trouble challenging them (actually CR5 and upwards enemies can give 10th lvl PCs a very hard time if done right).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now that's another matter. If you have trouble challenging them mechanically, the easiest thing to do is use published material and, even better, ask for help here on ENWorld. Provide a general situation and a general level of opposition you need, and I'm sure you'll get more than enough good answers.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oooh - that's not so good!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay, that's better. If you want them ambushed, it really is quite simple. Use appropriately skilled people. If they're 10th lvl, as mentioned above, a bunch of town guards shouldn't be able to ambush them. But when those three vampire ninjas want to, they sure as hell will. No, seriously, check the stats for vampires. Those things are scary at sneaking around. A CR 8 vampire can have a Hide and Move Silently bonus in the 30+ range.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shilsen, post: 3563858, member: 198"] One thing that it sounds like you need to remind yourself is that if you run D&D mostly as written, then characters at level 10 are not, by any stretch of the imagination, normal humans. They are superheroes in fantasy clothing, or, if you prefer, mythological figures. Batman wouldn't get surprised by a normal hoodlum hiding in an alley, but the Joker can pull a trick over him. Cuchulainn would never be killed by a single spell, however deadly. That's what you're dealing with at 10th lvl. Your PCs are supposed to be unstoppable by normal human enemies. And enemies close to their level shouldn't have any trouble challenging them (actually CR5 and upwards enemies can give 10th lvl PCs a very hard time if done right). Now that's another matter. If you have trouble challenging them mechanically, the easiest thing to do is use published material and, even better, ask for help here on ENWorld. Provide a general situation and a general level of opposition you need, and I'm sure you'll get more than enough good answers. Oooh - that's not so good! Okay, that's better. If you want them ambushed, it really is quite simple. Use appropriately skilled people. If they're 10th lvl, as mentioned above, a bunch of town guards shouldn't be able to ambush them. But when those three vampire ninjas want to, they sure as hell will. No, seriously, check the stats for vampires. Those things are scary at sneaking around. A CR 8 vampire can have a Hide and Move Silently bonus in the 30+ range. [/QUOTE]
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