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Message: <blockquote data-quote="knightofround" data-source="post: 4525121" data-attributes="member: 27884">Yeah I think its a stupid tactic. As other posters have said, a bluff check to play dead would be appropiate, probably with a circumstance bonus. Or if you really wanted to be hardcore, coup de grace yourself so the demon doesn't get the opportunity.However, punching yourself in the face because you know via metagaming it's a guarenteed way to make yourself unconscience, and you know via metagaming that the vrock attack would push you past -10, and you know via metagaming that you can't out-bluff the Vrock, is a stupid gamist tactic. The next thing you know, you'll have PCs attacking each other with subdual damage so NPCs don't get a killshot with lethal damage.If I were your DM I would make you roll a high DC Will save to see if you could actually knock yourself unconscience within 5 seconds.I don't like the way your DM handled it, but really, how can you blame him for fighting metagaming with metagaming?</blockquote>