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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Obly99" data-source="post: 8712761" data-attributes="member: 7035194">The kineticist is not op. It's strong if you build it good but it's not overpower unless particolar build. I can say three base class that are more powerful than the Herald, Sith or Berserker. Cleric, Druid and Wizard. Even after the Nerf from 3.5 to PF1 they are still the most broken classes. Like we said in the discussion of the Time Thief, from the base class at the start of the game, there has been a steady general increase in the power of the classes and archetypes released. I rely on the final part of Pathfinder's power level instead of its initial to decide whether to consider a "boss" or "players" class. According to this reasoning I should put all the full casters as boss only because the damage of the Herald and the Berserker do at 20 (and they are built for damage), a sorcerer with only Paizo canonical stuff at level 10 can do them.This is not a criticism of your way of seeing things, but in all the campaigns I have been in, we were highly optimized and I have a different conception of the Power level. Example al 15th we faced the CR 25 and we won without a single permanent death (even if with a LOT of effort)</blockquote>