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Subclass System in 5e- Too Much, Too Little, or Just Right (GOLDILOCKS POLL!)
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<blockquote data-quote="Todd Roybark" data-source="post: 8057234" data-attributes="member: 6920677"><p>That is more an artifact of the designers and the design process, than something inherent to the system.</p><p>The Psi Die mechanic was rejected by the playtest community, in part for <em>being different</em>.</p><p>The published Oath of Glory Paladin subclass was rejected by some on this board as being <em>"Weak"</em>, when the published version focused on enhancing movement and granting Temp HP,</p><p><em>instead of being the Oath of Elven Crit-fishing it was initially in U/A</em>.</p><p></p><p>The loudest voices in the D&D room are often those that prefer the reassurance of an extra 5% chance to score a critical hit, or a straight damage boost, then other options. Options to boost others are routinely less well regarded then options that boost solo DPS.</p><p></p><p>As someone that remembers 2e Warpiests, (either through Kit or through the FR Warpriest of Tempus), dominated and outshone Fighters, Paladins and Rangers, <em>I appreciate</em> the restraint shown in 5e.</p><p></p><p>A 5e War domain cleric has two methods of securing an Extra Attack like feature: War Priest or Spiritual Weapon....both are bonus actions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Todd Roybark, post: 8057234, member: 6920677"] That is more an artifact of the designers and the design process, than something inherent to the system. The Psi Die mechanic was rejected by the playtest community, in part for [I]being different[/I]. The published Oath of Glory Paladin subclass was rejected by some on this board as being [I]"Weak"[/I], when the published version focused on enhancing movement and granting Temp HP, [I]instead of being the Oath of Elven Crit-fishing it was initially in U/A[/I]. The loudest voices in the D&D room are often those that prefer the reassurance of an extra 5% chance to score a critical hit, or a straight damage boost, then other options. Options to boost others are routinely less well regarded then options that boost solo DPS. As someone that remembers 2e Warpiests, (either through Kit or through the FR Warpriest of Tempus), dominated and outshone Fighters, Paladins and Rangers, [I]I appreciate[/I] the restraint shown in 5e. A 5e War domain cleric has two methods of securing an Extra Attack like feature: War Priest or Spiritual Weapon....both are bonus actions. [/QUOTE]
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