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<blockquote data-quote="FlyingChihuahua" data-source="post: 8057336" data-attributes="member: 6904924">I don't understand this really tbh.If you just make Barbarian a subclass of Fighter, then it's just gonna be &quot;Rage&quot; with nothing interesting added onto it. You aren't gonna rage and get a damage aura like you would for Storm Herald, you're just gonna get a basic Rage when there is so much you can add onto the rage. Same with Monk, there is so much stuff you can add on to using fisticuffs. You can add so much more to the &quot;Druid&quot; idea than just &quot;turning into animals&quot;, so much more you can add to Artificer than just &quot;I make magic items good&quot;, so much more to add to Warlock than just &quot;I made a pact to get my magic&quot;, and so on and so forth.I do agree that we should pare down classes as much as possible, but if you get a feature that can define a class (Rage, Martial Arts, Wild Shape, Smite, Eldritch Invocations, Metamagic, Bardic Inspiration, etc.) you make a class with that feature. You don't just pare it off into other classes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FlyingChihuahua, post: 8057336, member: 6904924"] I don't understand this really tbh. If you just make Barbarian a subclass of Fighter, then it's just gonna be "Rage" with nothing interesting added onto it. You aren't gonna rage and get a damage aura like you would for Storm Herald, you're just gonna get a basic Rage when there is so much you can add onto the rage. Same with Monk, there is so much stuff you can add on to using fisticuffs. You can add so much more to the "Druid" idea than just "turning into animals", so much more you can add to Artificer than just "I make magic items good", so much more to add to Warlock than just "I made a pact to get my magic", and so on and so forth. I do agree that we should pare down classes as much as possible, but if you get a feature that can define a class (Rage, Martial Arts, Wild Shape, Smite, Eldritch Invocations, Metamagic, Bardic Inspiration, etc.) [I]you make a class with that feature[/I]. You don't just pare it off into other classes. [/QUOTE]

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