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<blockquote data-quote="gyor" data-source="post: 7211495" data-attributes="member: 6670153">I've noticed how big the impact new subclasses can have on my views of a class.&nbsp;Like Sorceror and Barbarian, when 5e first came out I skimmed those sections, neither class seemed compelling compared to Bard, Warlock, Paladin, ect...&nbsp;Then UA came out with new subclasses that changed how I viewed those classes entirely.&nbsp;Barbarian gained cool subclasses like Zealot, Ancestoral Guardian, and Storm Herald, and the Sorceror gained Storm, Shadow, Phoenix, Favoured Soul, Sea, Stone Origins each of which massive altered the game play of the class in major ways, changing how I viewed those classes. Same with Circle of the Sheppard Druid. Now Sorceror is tied with Bard as my favourite class, and Barbarian is tied with Paladin as next highest. Circle of the Sheppard is tied for first, but the Druid as a whole is in the back of the pack still.&nbsp;But it extends beyond just liking a particular subclass, it encourages me to look at a class in entirely knew light. Like figuring out clever uses for metamagic, and encouraging me to take a look at older PHB subclasses with a new eye. Example Dragon Sorceror which didn't interest me in the slightest is now compelling, and I realized you can do cool things like using using the Dragon Fear Aura at the same time as a Qucken Spell like Quickened Fireball, or drop rocks on enemies from massive heights instead of just casting spells. Or imagine grappling someone and flying straight up to eventually drop them from a great height. That Point of View suggests Goliaths could make interesting Dragon Sorcerors. &nbsp;Rangers were originally the Drizzt class with added spell casting,&nbsp; but Horizon Walker made me think of Blink of X-Men and Exiles Fame instead,&nbsp; radically different view of the class.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gyor, post: 7211495, member: 6670153"] I've noticed how big the impact new subclasses can have on my views of a class. Like Sorceror and Barbarian, when 5e first came out I skimmed those sections, neither class seemed compelling compared to Bard, Warlock, Paladin, ect... Then UA came out with new subclasses that changed how I viewed those classes entirely. Barbarian gained cool subclasses like Zealot, Ancestoral Guardian, and Storm Herald, and the Sorceror gained Storm, Shadow, Phoenix, Favoured Soul, Sea, Stone Origins each of which massive altered the game play of the class in major ways, changing how I viewed those classes. Same with Circle of the Sheppard Druid. Now Sorceror is tied with Bard as my favourite class, and Barbarian is tied with Paladin as next highest. Circle of the Sheppard is tied for first, but the Druid as a whole is in the back of the pack still. But it extends beyond just liking a particular subclass, it encourages me to look at a class in entirely knew light. Like figuring out clever uses for metamagic, and encouraging me to take a look at older PHB subclasses with a new eye. Example Dragon Sorceror which didn't interest me in the slightest is now compelling, and I realized you can do cool things like using using the Dragon Fear Aura at the same time as a Qucken Spell like Quickened Fireball, or drop rocks on enemies from massive heights instead of just casting spells. Or imagine grappling someone and flying straight up to eventually drop them from a great height. That Point of View suggests Goliaths could make interesting Dragon Sorcerors. Rangers were originally the Drizzt class with added spell casting, but Horizon Walker made me think of Blink of X-Men and Exiles Fame instead, radically different view of the class. [/QUOTE]

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