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<blockquote data-quote="CreamCloud0" data-source="post: 8789975" data-attributes="member: 7034710">I might argue that warlock doesn’t actually need a level 1 subclass, you know you made a pact with something, you don’t actually forge a strong enough connection with it to find out what they actually were until 3rd level.Edit: i would prefer all the subclasses beginnings were standardised but personally I’ve no idea why people are so insistent on that being level 1, the core class abilities are the core of your class so of course you learn those first before you then specialise, the narrative is just that you were always training to do those things but 3rd level is just the point where you actually manage to make things click and your efforts stat showing results, it’s when the eldritch Knight figures out how to actually cast something that’s recognisable as a spell and has memorised more than the most basic arcane terminology, 3rd is when your cleric or paladin’s divine magic actually starts solidifying enough to manifest specific effects based on their god/oath rather than just the basic abilities all cleric/paladins get, it’s when the ranger has trained enough that their specialisation starts showing enough to make a noticeable difference.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CreamCloud0, post: 8789975, member: 7034710"] I might argue that warlock [I]doesn’t [/I]actually need a level 1 subclass, you know you made a pact with [I]something[/I], you don’t actually forge a strong enough connection with it to find out [I]what they actually were[/I] until 3rd level. Edit: i would prefer all the subclasses beginnings were standardised but personally I’ve no idea why people are so insistent on that being level 1, the core class abilities [I]are the core of your class [/I]so of course you learn those first before you then [I]specialise[/I], the narrative is just that you were always training to do those things but 3rd level is just the point where you actually manage to make things click and your efforts stat showing results, it’s when the eldritch Knight figures out how to actually cast something that’s recognisable as a spell and has memorised more than the most basic arcane terminology, 3rd is when your cleric or paladin’s divine magic actually starts solidifying enough to manifest specific effects based on their god/oath rather than just the basic abilities all cleric/paladins get, it’s when the ranger has trained enough that their specialisation starts showing enough to make a noticeable difference. [/QUOTE]

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