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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 5080880" data-attributes="member: 18280">Your paradox is easily resolved on two grounds:1.&nbsp; You assume that A cannot be known, therefore A is untrue, whereas, as you earlier noted, objective truths are true whether or not we know them to be so.2.&nbsp; You are conflating objective truth with axiomatic truth.&nbsp; &quot;2 + 2 = 4&quot; is an axiomatic truth; it may or may not be objectively true.&nbsp; &quot;These two apples plus these two apples are those four apples&quot; is a statement which claims to be objectively true, on the assumption of validity of both the axiomatic truth and the observation.&quot;We cannot know objective truth&quot; is a statement of axiomatic truth.&nbsp; It is not objective, in that it refers to no actual object.&nbsp; It may also be wrong, in the sole event that knowledge by revelation should prove to be axiomatically true.I think, rather, that they understand the axiomatic ground upon which modern empirical science rests.&nbsp; Anyone who believes that a system of knowledge rests on objective grounds fails to understand the axioms of objectivity itself.RC</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 5080880, member: 18280"] Your paradox is easily resolved on two grounds: 1. You assume that A cannot be known, therefore A is untrue, whereas, as you earlier noted, objective truths are true whether or not we know them to be so. 2. You are conflating objective truth with axiomatic truth. "2 + 2 = 4" is an axiomatic truth; it may or may not be objectively true. "These two apples plus these two apples are those four apples" is a statement which claims to be objectively true, on the assumption of validity of both the axiomatic truth and the observation. "We cannot know objective truth" is a statement of axiomatic truth. It is not objective, in that it refers to no actual object. It may also be wrong, in the sole event that knowledge by revelation should prove to be axiomatically true. I think, rather, that they understand the axiomatic ground upon which modern empirical science rests. Anyone who believes that a system of knowledge rests on objective grounds fails to understand the axioms of objectivity itself. RC [/QUOTE]

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