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<blockquote data-quote="FireLance" data-source="post: 2727270" data-attributes="member: 3424"><p>As long as you have 9 levels of bard or less, you shouldn't worry because you only get 3rd level bard spells, anyway.</p><p></p><p>However, if you're a 10th-level bard and a 1st-level sublime chord, you get 4th-level spells as a bard (since you have a 20 Charisma) and 4th and 5th level spells as a sublime chord, but they are separate. You keep track of spell slots and spells known for each class separately, so you can't use your 4th-level bard spell slots to cast sublime chord spells, and you can't use your 4th-level (and higher) sublime chord spell slots to cast bard spells.</p><p></p><p>However, you do get to add your sublime chord level to your bard level to determine your caster level for bard and sublime chord spells.</p><p></p><p>As for whether it will still be worth it to take sublime chord levels, I would say yes <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. Because of the sublime chord's skill rank requirements, you can't take your first sublime chord level before 11th character level anyway, and you immediately get 5th-level spells. You don't have the versatility of a wizard or the spell output of a sorcerer, but you're only two levels behind a single-class wizard and one level behind a single-class sorcerer in terms of the highest level spells you can cast. Given the lack of arcane spellcasting in your party, I think this will be a welcome addition.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FireLance, post: 2727270, member: 3424"] As long as you have 9 levels of bard or less, you shouldn't worry because you only get 3rd level bard spells, anyway. However, if you're a 10th-level bard and a 1st-level sublime chord, you get 4th-level spells as a bard (since you have a 20 Charisma) and 4th and 5th level spells as a sublime chord, but they are separate. You keep track of spell slots and spells known for each class separately, so you can't use your 4th-level bard spell slots to cast sublime chord spells, and you can't use your 4th-level (and higher) sublime chord spell slots to cast bard spells. However, you do get to add your sublime chord level to your bard level to determine your caster level for bard and sublime chord spells. As for whether it will still be worth it to take sublime chord levels, I would say yes :). Because of the sublime chord's skill rank requirements, you can't take your first sublime chord level before 11th character level anyway, and you immediately get 5th-level spells. You don't have the versatility of a wizard or the spell output of a sorcerer, but you're only two levels behind a single-class wizard and one level behind a single-class sorcerer in terms of the highest level spells you can cast. Given the lack of arcane spellcasting in your party, I think this will be a welcome addition. [/QUOTE]
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