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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 1771721" data-attributes="member: 2205">Errr...  not quite to you to.  He wasn't saying that high elves were standard elves in Tolkien, he was saying that high elves in D&D are (sorta) equivalent to standard Tolkien elves.You need to read The Hobbit and Fellowship of the Ring again.  Sure there are.  I think what you mean is that there are no Vanyar in Middle-earth, but even that's complicated, as Galadriel was half-Vanyar.  By "high" elf, what Tolkien meant was an elf that had been to Valinor.  And nobody (except the ignorant) ever tried to claim that the Vanyar were "ridiculously powerful"; they actually seemed to be less competent on a lot of fronts than the Noldor.Uh, absolutely wrong.  There was an entire kingdom of the Noldor in Hollin (Eregion) in the second age, and it very clearly states that many of the elves of Rivendell were Noldor, including Glorfindel and Gildor, two other named elves from Fellowship.  Your history of Glorfindel is a bit wrong as well; Tolkien didn't "accidentally" reincarnate him, there's a long discussion on Glorfindel and why he "came back" after his death, and how an elf could even do that anyway.  And you have to be a real Tolkien nerd to know that; it's in the War of the Jewels (I believe) which are almost unreadable to casual readers.  A casual Tolkien fan will note that the name Glorfindel was reused in the Silmarillion and Fellowship of the Ring.In game terms there should be a big difference between Sindar and Nandor, actually.What types of elves are playable would depend on the region and time period, but at absolutely no point in the entire history of Middle-earth would that be true.Melian (the Maia) and Thingol Greycloak (the king of the Sindar, but also technically a high elf since he went to Valinor) were the parents of Luthien, who married Beren, a man of the house of Beor.  Their son, Dior, was married to Nimloth, a Sindarin elf-maid, and their daughter was Elwing, mother of Elrond.  So, it's a bit more complicated on that side of the family tree.  On his father's side, it's a bit more straightforward; Tuor, son of Huor, of the House of Hador, a Man, married Idril, the daughter of the Noldor king of Gondolin (drawing a blank, but I think it was Turgon, brother of Galadriel) who bore Earendil, Elrond's father.</blockquote>

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