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Message: <blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6571877" data-attributes="member: 92511">I can't say where they get the idea. As for how to stop it?Tell them "No." or "It doesn't work like that."Unless the caster is a sorcerer with Subtle spell...which is kinda what the skill is for. Or Silent spell, but perception to notice hand gestures. Or Still spell, but Perception to notice you mumbling to yourself...spellcasting is obvious and noticeable.Innate magic, like the tiefling's Thaumaturgy, I would kind of be inclined to make it automatically "Subtle". A minor or quick hand gesture. Maybe not even that, a thought. No speaking or components necessary. It's an "innate power" of the race. Same for gnome or elf or any other class' innate magics.But the only way you're going to dissuade these behaviors/expectations/assumptions is to lay out that they are not so in the game. Just say No.Enchantment magics a bit tougher to flavor as overt since they are, essentially, to be used to alter someone's perceptions and I can see it not being noticeable as the default assumption. But in the situations you describe in the OP, in a crowded closed space or at a gate house with a half dozen guards...who are on duty to be watching those entering the city...it really would/should have a very low chance of success. If theywant to try it anyway, that's on them and they can deal with the fall out.But just say, from the get go, spell casting...the "Cast a Spell" Action is a noticeable, deliberate action unless it is an innate power or being used with Subtle, Silent or Still spell. That's it. Want to try doing it in crowded situations, set up to have one of your companions create a distraction while you are mumbling and waving your hands.</blockquote>

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