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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 1658469" data-attributes="member: 957">This clubs sucks.  How do I get out?   <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> OK, though one point of disagreement (as I understood it) was that a classless monster MAY be handled by the system.  As long as 13.333 EL-4 encounters = +1 level, all is well.  I understand that you would just toss in a level and be done with it.  And that is fine.  But it ain't required.Yes.  However, depending on the campaign I would keep the 2/3 rule as well.  As we agreed before, the 2/3 rule is what makes CR=CR be a 50/50 fight.  If I wanted to encourage standard class characters I would NOT use the 2/3 rule, thus imposing the CR premium.  If I was willing to allow monsters characters to be fully equal to standard ones, without paying an entry price, then I would keep the 2/3 rule.  Clearly, the second case would not be in the ultimate intent of GT.And I'd NOT use the 2/3 rule in the vast majority of cases because I agree that there are VERY valid reasons for charging PCs a premium.  My only claim is that the system does not break by keeping that in for players and in far -out everyone is a monster games, it just adds to the options and versitility of your system.I don't agree that LA is an adjustment "without benefit".  But it is a consistently overpriced benefit.  Monster PCs in core certainly get less bang for their ECL than standard characters do.  And I'll agree that this is a good thing and on that same line it is also a good thing to throw out the 2/3 rule for PCs.  So I agree with what you have said here, but I think "without benefit" overstates it.  You could probably find two monsters with the same number and type of HD, but one with more powers.  That one would have a higher LA, and the higher LA would be for the benefit of those extra powers.  It would just overcharge for them.  (Say maybe in the ballpark of 2/3 the true LA value in actual powers   <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />   )Agreed.</blockquote>

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