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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 1659149" data-attributes="member: 957">Agreed, though maybe not as emphatically.  The raw concept of +X levels to get an equivalent character is solid.GT does the same thing only both A)more thoughtfully overall and B) with the clever evolution of making a distinction between CL and CR (+X CR avoids these bizarro Vrock issues)WotC clearly uses some strange finger in the wind approach (bad) and their finger appears to be seriously miscalibrated at times (much worse).  But I've never been shy about tossing a bad rule or value and replacing it with one that works.  *relief*Yes.  This is what I have been saying.The ECL7/CR6 guy gets handled differently in GT than in core in the same way the Vrock is handled differently in GT than in core.  Just the Vrock is an example taken to its extreme core malfunction.You are correct that in some cases the change in CR may end up in the same EL, and thus the rounding built into the GT tables makes the difference go away at some times.  When your example character reaches CL17 he will be CR20 (EL18) while his clone will be CL19 (EL17).  So the difference will pop in and out depending on where you are.Which again is a stength of GT.  As you pointed out before, because ELs cover spans of CR the overall impact of special abilities dwindle away. This has a built in equivalent effect of the UA buy-off, only it is more systematic and less best-guess band-aid approach.  (And it may be a point where ELs are still superior to the Chi Ro power approach, I'll need to think that through)</blockquote>

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